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	<title>Comments on: Jeff Pyle Issues Support Letter for Lenape Full Day Program</title>
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		<title>By: jdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you jfullerton!  You brought up the exact point I wanted to mention concerning elderman&#039;s latest bashing of Dr. Kerr.  If the Superintendent of a district is not expected to, let alone ALLOWED to, make recommendations for that district, what exactly is his or her job?!?! Why do we pay these people with advanced degrees and educational expericence so much money?  If all we wanted was a figurehead for photo ops, (something I&#039;m sure the current board majority would prefer), then we could just hire someone off the street for minimum wage who happens to look the part.  I looked up some superintendent openings listed online and found some of the following in the ads: “skillful in maximizing human and financial resources…”, “demonstrated success in facilities management…”, and “should possess the visionary strategic planning skills…”  Apparently, in other districts it’s expected that superintendents will have and voice opinions and ideas on how the entire school district community will best enhance the learning atmosphere of the students while best handling district finances.  Not here though.  If we were to put an ad out for the position, it would have to include: “must be willing to subvert all professional skill, knowledge and experience to kowtow to an over-reaching, power-drunk school board who couldn’t act professionally and in the best interests of ALL in the district if their lives depended on it.”  Oh, and don’t forget “should not step beyond the purview of his job.” 

Of COURSE it is a superintendent’s job to make recommendations and plans for the direction and running of a school district.  He/she has the educational experience and background to do so.  Most members of a school board do not. Will everyone always agree on those plans?  No.  But isn’t it a better idea to have a presumably neutral party making necessary plans and adjustments to the district than a group of emotionally invested individuals doing so, while they cannot even act respectfully and professionally towards each other and the people they represent?  Obviously having earned a Doctorate does not automatically make one the wisest person in the room, as can be seen every time our school board gets together, but in most cases said person deserves the respect that has been earned over a career in education.  

I have to give Dr. Kerr kudos for actually staying in his position here for as long as he has.  Any of you out there, can you imagine going to work every day knowing what you were going to have to deal with in terms of lack of respect and downright hostility at every turn?  Thanks to him and thanks to the directors who are trying to be sensible about what our district must do now and in the future to best manage our resources, time and personnel, all while striving to give our students what they deserve: the best education we can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you jfullerton!  You brought up the exact point I wanted to mention concerning elderman&#8217;s latest bashing of Dr. Kerr.  If the Superintendent of a district is not expected to, let alone ALLOWED to, make recommendations for that district, what exactly is his or her job?!?! Why do we pay these people with advanced degrees and educational expericence so much money?  If all we wanted was a figurehead for photo ops, (something I&#8217;m sure the current board majority would prefer), then we could just hire someone off the street for minimum wage who happens to look the part.  I looked up some superintendent openings listed online and found some of the following in the ads: “skillful in maximizing human and financial resources…”, “demonstrated success in facilities management…”, and “should possess the visionary strategic planning skills…”  Apparently, in other districts it’s expected that superintendents will have and voice opinions and ideas on how the entire school district community will best enhance the learning atmosphere of the students while best handling district finances.  Not here though.  If we were to put an ad out for the position, it would have to include: “must be willing to subvert all professional skill, knowledge and experience to kowtow to an over-reaching, power-drunk school board who couldn’t act professionally and in the best interests of ALL in the district if their lives depended on it.”  Oh, and don’t forget “should not step beyond the purview of his job.” </p>
<p>Of COURSE it is a superintendent’s job to make recommendations and plans for the direction and running of a school district.  He/she has the educational experience and background to do so.  Most members of a school board do not. Will everyone always agree on those plans?  No.  But isn’t it a better idea to have a presumably neutral party making necessary plans and adjustments to the district than a group of emotionally invested individuals doing so, while they cannot even act respectfully and professionally towards each other and the people they represent?  Obviously having earned a Doctorate does not automatically make one the wisest person in the room, as can be seen every time our school board gets together, but in most cases said person deserves the respect that has been earned over a career in education.  </p>
<p>I have to give Dr. Kerr kudos for actually staying in his position here for as long as he has.  Any of you out there, can you imagine going to work every day knowing what you were going to have to deal with in terms of lack of respect and downright hostility at every turn?  Thanks to him and thanks to the directors who are trying to be sensible about what our district must do now and in the future to best manage our resources, time and personnel, all while striving to give our students what they deserve: the best education we can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: jfullerton</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfullerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Elderman!  It is nice to have you back.  I want to get into a discussion with you about one of your comments:  

&quot;The only recommendation that Elderton should be closed was made by Dr. Kerr in the Kerr Report in which he stepped beyond the purview of his job and tried to dictate how the district should be shaped.&quot;

Dr. Kerr made a recommendation.  The board did not have to follow it, in fact 4 members of the board did not follow it, but 5 did.  Much like he is making the same recommendation now and 6 members are choosing not to follow it, the recommendation.  My point is this, he made a recommendation, I believe that is his job as the superintendent.  He makes many recommendations to the board, hirings, curriculum, ect.  And the board votes on those recommendations.  The problem as I see it is this time, people took it personally.  But if we do not allow him to make any recommendations about the shape of the district, both financially and educationally, then why do we have a superintendent?  What would you suppose he should do?  I eagerly await your response as I really do wish to get into a rational debate with you on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Elderman!  It is nice to have you back.  I want to get into a discussion with you about one of your comments:  </p>
<p>&#8220;The only recommendation that Elderton should be closed was made by Dr. Kerr in the Kerr Report in which he stepped beyond the purview of his job and tried to dictate how the district should be shaped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Kerr made a recommendation.  The board did not have to follow it, in fact 4 members of the board did not follow it, but 5 did.  Much like he is making the same recommendation now and 6 members are choosing not to follow it, the recommendation.  My point is this, he made a recommendation, I believe that is his job as the superintendent.  He makes many recommendations to the board, hirings, curriculum, ect.  And the board votes on those recommendations.  The problem as I see it is this time, people took it personally.  But if we do not allow him to make any recommendations about the shape of the district, both financially and educationally, then why do we have a superintendent?  What would you suppose he should do?  I eagerly await your response as I really do wish to get into a rational debate with you on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fichthorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Fichthorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ElderSolak, You have ZERO credibility. Twenty plus years bullying your way on this board...plummeting our district further and further down into the Dark Ages.
Common sense dictates that Elderton should remain closed. You or MJM have never addressed the fact that many of the former Elderton students want no part of returning to that school. You claim to have a doctorate. It sure isn&#039;t in common sense or honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ElderSolak, You have ZERO credibility. Twenty plus years bullying your way on this board&#8230;plummeting our district further and further down into the Dark Ages.<br />
Common sense dictates that Elderton should remain closed. You or MJM have never addressed the fact that many of the former Elderton students want no part of returning to that school. You claim to have a doctorate. It sure isn&#8217;t in common sense or honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: elderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>elderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Jen/Jan/Jen?????:     Actually I am not particularly upset that Jan has chosen not to defend what she posted.  How could she defend her posting?  That is my point entirely; if it is not true, do not post it!  As far as my remarks being “snarky”, I regret if they appear that way.  And yes, I have read the reports and indeed that is why I am asking Jan to supply the report that I am unaware of, you know, the one that definitively states that Elderton should be closed.  And as you have chosen to interject yourself  as  Jan’s all knowing advocate, I want to extend that same courtesy to you.  Please name the report that states that Elderton should be closed (again excluding the Kerr Report;  that is only one persons opinion), where this report can be viewed, and the exact location in the report that states that Elderton SHOULD be closed.  If you can do that, I certainly will not be able to “twist the facts” as you like to say.  If you cannot do this, your credibility is going to take a major hit.  And Jen, has it ever occurred to you that hurriedly typing in lots of words with little catch phrases like “twisting the facts” that do not address the subject under discussion serves no purpose and exposes you for lack of substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Jen/Jan/Jen?????:     Actually I am not particularly upset that Jan has chosen not to defend what she posted.  How could she defend her posting?  That is my point entirely; if it is not true, do not post it!  As far as my remarks being “snarky”, I regret if they appear that way.  And yes, I have read the reports and indeed that is why I am asking Jan to supply the report that I am unaware of, you know, the one that definitively states that Elderton should be closed.  And as you have chosen to interject yourself  as  Jan’s all knowing advocate, I want to extend that same courtesy to you.  Please name the report that states that Elderton should be closed (again excluding the Kerr Report;  that is only one persons opinion), where this report can be viewed, and the exact location in the report that states that Elderton SHOULD be closed.  If you can do that, I certainly will not be able to “twist the facts” as you like to say.  If you cannot do this, your credibility is going to take a major hit.  And Jen, has it ever occurred to you that hurriedly typing in lots of words with little catch phrases like “twisting the facts” that do not address the subject under discussion serves no purpose and exposes you for lack of substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruscoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruscoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASD taxpayer:

I do not want the one entity you listed leading anything in this county.  I have not seen anything productive they have established in this area.  In fact, it seems that the reverse is occurring, but of course, we brush that off as speculation. 

The hospital should fund it&#039;s own wellness center. 

This is even more reason to have the YMCA located somewhere else other than the Belmont or West Hills.  The hospital should puruse it&#039;s wellness center and locate it near the hospital.  

The YMCA should be centrally located for the county.  

By the way, has the Kittanning Paper or Mr. Pyle looked into the dealings with the relocation of the YMCA?  I have heard all types of stories or even rumors coming from some of the board members of the YMCA surrounding the staffing decisions.  

I witnessed how Mr. Rizzo was treated when he wanted to ask specific questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASD taxpayer:</p>
<p>I do not want the one entity you listed leading anything in this county.  I have not seen anything productive they have established in this area.  In fact, it seems that the reverse is occurring, but of course, we brush that off as speculation. </p>
<p>The hospital should fund it&#8217;s own wellness center. </p>
<p>This is even more reason to have the YMCA located somewhere else other than the Belmont or West Hills.  The hospital should puruse it&#8217;s wellness center and locate it near the hospital.  </p>
<p>The YMCA should be centrally located for the county.  </p>
<p>By the way, has the Kittanning Paper or Mr. Pyle looked into the dealings with the relocation of the YMCA?  I have heard all types of stories or even rumors coming from some of the board members of the YMCA surrounding the staffing decisions.  </p>
<p>I witnessed how Mr. Rizzo was treated when he wanted to ask specific questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen16226</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen16226</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elderman,

Oh no......I read very correctly who you were posting to and you poor thing, all upset that Jan didn&#039;t answer yet! 
Sorry Jan!!! LOL

Apprently you have read the reports given your snarky remarks, so how about you tell us all what is said in there?  I know that I have read them too and the constant in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE REPORTS that I named above is that ASD can NOT support having as many high schools as it does.  That was why Worthington, Dayton and Shannock were closed. 

As for documentation to back up comments, I don&#039;t exactly see you commenting on my article today.  Whats wrong?  The article is fact based and not smear and slander?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elderman,</p>
<p>Oh no&#8230;&#8230;I read very correctly who you were posting to and you poor thing, all upset that Jan didn&#8217;t answer yet!<br />
Sorry Jan!!! LOL</p>
<p>Apprently you have read the reports given your snarky remarks, so how about you tell us all what is said in there?  I know that I have read them too and the constant in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE REPORTS that I named above is that ASD can NOT support having as many high schools as it does.  That was why Worthington, Dayton and Shannock were closed. </p>
<p>As for documentation to back up comments, I don&#8217;t exactly see you commenting on my article today.  Whats wrong?  The article is fact based and not smear and slander?</p>
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		<title>By: elderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>elderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Jen:    You misread who I was addressing with my post, Jan, not Jen.  Can we agree that Jan deserves and should be give a chance to defend her two different statements without your interruption?

As far as trying to twist anything, I tried to quote her two distinctly different statements word for word, was I inaccurate?  And no, as much as you (and Jan) wish the two statements were the same, they obviously are not.  I am simply asking her for the studies and recommendations (excluding Dr. Kerr’s one man show; The Kerr Report, which under any circumstance could not be considered a study) that state that Elderton SHOULD be closed.   To my knowledge, there are NONE!   There are reports that list different scenarios for updating the district, but they give the district wide choices on how to proceed.  If Jan knows of a study that states that Elderton SHOULD be closed, I urge her to share as I would like to read it.

And further, now that you have weighed in on the subject, exactly which report and where in it is it stated, even as a “suggestion” not an “option” that Elderton SHOULD  be closed?  And again, I consider the Kerr Report to be bogus; the man overstepped the limits of his job and pushed the district toward his personal agenda.  And one more thing that you may want to consider,the &quot;twisting the facts&quot; defense when you or your cohorts post something that they cannot back up with data is becoming tiresome and appears to myself and other readers to be an all encompassing excuse.  I would suggest that if you cannot back up your statements to simply say so, the readers would at least admire your honesty in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Jen:    You misread who I was addressing with my post, Jan, not Jen.  Can we agree that Jan deserves and should be give a chance to defend her two different statements without your interruption?</p>
<p>As far as trying to twist anything, I tried to quote her two distinctly different statements word for word, was I inaccurate?  And no, as much as you (and Jan) wish the two statements were the same, they obviously are not.  I am simply asking her for the studies and recommendations (excluding Dr. Kerr’s one man show; The Kerr Report, which under any circumstance could not be considered a study) that state that Elderton SHOULD be closed.   To my knowledge, there are NONE!   There are reports that list different scenarios for updating the district, but they give the district wide choices on how to proceed.  If Jan knows of a study that states that Elderton SHOULD be closed, I urge her to share as I would like to read it.</p>
<p>And further, now that you have weighed in on the subject, exactly which report and where in it is it stated, even as a “suggestion” not an “option” that Elderton SHOULD  be closed?  And again, I consider the Kerr Report to be bogus; the man overstepped the limits of his job and pushed the district toward his personal agenda.  And one more thing that you may want to consider,the &#8220;twisting the facts&#8221; defense when you or your cohorts post something that they cannot back up with data is becoming tiresome and appears to myself and other readers to be an all encompassing excuse.  I would suggest that if you cannot back up your statements to simply say so, the readers would at least admire your honesty in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetleur</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand, a lot of the students from Elderton want to stay at the schools where they are and not go back to Elderton. Are we going to waste money on a half empty school? probably as this inept displays their contempt for the taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand, a lot of the students from Elderton want to stay at the schools where they are and not go back to Elderton. Are we going to waste money on a half empty school? probably as this inept displays their contempt for the taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen16226</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen16226</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elderman,

Good morning!

Once Again.....is your right hand on red and your left foot on yellow?  You sure like to play twister!  
I believe Jan&#039;s comments are the same thing, phrased differently.  

Dr. Kerr&#039;s report is not the only one out there.  There is documentation dating back 30 years that has been pointing to the district will have to downsize due to declining population:
The original ASD formation documents from the 1960&#039;s, ASD Long-Range Development Plan from 1968, The Comprehensive Review of the Building Feasibility Study and Attendance Areas from 2001, the 2003 Dancu Report, the 2007 Hayes Large Facilities Study and the 2007 Armstrong Charette.

Do those studies point blank name Elderton to be closed?  Some of them do as a suggestion.  But they all DO point out that the district would have to downsize.  So explain how you would possibly close Ford City with 600+ kids in it?  Or Kittanning with 600+ kids in it?  Elderton had/has 300+.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elderman,</p>
<p>Good morning!</p>
<p>Once Again&#8230;..is your right hand on red and your left foot on yellow?  You sure like to play twister!<br />
I believe Jan&#8217;s comments are the same thing, phrased differently.  </p>
<p>Dr. Kerr&#8217;s report is not the only one out there.  There is documentation dating back 30 years that has been pointing to the district will have to downsize due to declining population:<br />
The original ASD formation documents from the 1960&#8242;s, ASD Long-Range Development Plan from 1968, The Comprehensive Review of the Building Feasibility Study and Attendance Areas from 2001, the 2003 Dancu Report, the 2007 Hayes Large Facilities Study and the 2007 Armstrong Charette.</p>
<p>Do those studies point blank name Elderton to be closed?  Some of them do as a suggestion.  But they all DO point out that the district would have to downsize.  So explain how you would possibly close Ford City with 600+ kids in it?  Or Kittanning with 600+ kids in it?  Elderton had/has 300+.</p>
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